Wow. Studio Gibli and Open AI
potentially going at it. This is
absolutely fascinating. Um, is AI art
theft is kind of like the question that
is on everybody's mind at the moment?
There's a lot of people having like this
ethical debate right now about whether
generating things with generative AI
that looks so close to the style of
somebody else is theft or not. Um, I
think this is a really interesting
debate that actually even predates open
AI and comes back a little bit to what I
think of definitely online as this sort
of pervasive culture of people taking
other people's ideas and styles and the
way people do things and repurposing it.
Now, there's a lot of people who would
say that this is the way human artists
work. That um an artist will be
influenced by other artists that they've
liked and things they've seen other
people do and techniques that they've
seen other people use. Certainly, you
know, all the greats, Van Go, Picasso,
Da Vinci, um, Basat, um, Andy Warhol,
all of these sorts of people were
influenced by other artists around them
and art and design, um, in their of
their contemporaries and people who came
before them. Monet, same sort of thing.
A lot of artists even sort of, you know,
studied with each other and borrowed
each other's techniques. And this
happens across the board in literature,
in music. you get people suing each
other because they come up with riffs
that are similar. Um, a really
interesting one a few years ago, Robin
Thick, the musician, was sued by the
family of Marvin Gay um because his song
sounded too similar to Marvin Gay's
style. And I think the outcome of that,
if I remember correctly, was that the
court concluded that you can't copyright
a style and so the Marvin Gay family
didn't uh win that. That's my
understanding. I should have actually
checked that before I hit record, but I
wanted to get this out there. Hey
everybody, how you doing? It's editing
Nick and um as I was watching back the
video, I realized I did need to fact
check that and Marvin Gay's family did
in fact win that court case. In fact,
for copying the feel and style of got to
give it up, Marvin Gay's family were
awarded $7.4 million in damages. I think
that's a hugely important, as it says in
sort of some of the articles I've read
about this, it's a landmark moment for,
I guess, copyright and how much artists
are protected. But at the same time, as
I understand it in copyright law, and
what I'd been led to believe is that you
can't just copyright the look and feel
of something. So, it's interesting.
There was all this stuff in the articles
about Robin Thick saying he was too high
and he was in fact um a fan of that song
had been influenced by it and Farel
Williams saying he hadn't intentionally
copied it but he wasn't quite sure. So
between the two of those guys they
messed up there, didn't they? Anyway,
back to the video. And I think this
conversation about copyright and about
what you can copyright um keeps rearing
its head online. And I am such a fan and
I am such a I am such an advocate of
artists being able to experiment in
safety and understanding that things
will naturally repeat. But um I think
that really applies to human artists and
I think we have to be very careful with
generative AI because it doesn't work in
the same way that a human artist works.
Naturally the way we tend to work, the
way artists will tend to iterate, the
true artists who are out there um is
what people will do if they're not When
a human is working on a piece of art,
when a person is creating something,
what they will tend to do is iterate and
adapt and change things and things go
through their filters. Now, the issue is
when you're using generative AI as a
tool that does so much for you where you
give it the sort of inspiration you have
in a prompt, generative AI doesn't add
that extra 5 or 10% that intangible bit
of creativity that you create. um when
you when you pass other people's art, if
you think of yourself as a computer, and
I hate to do that, um but it's good
analogy that if you think about the way
you pass information, um as an artist,
what you do is you take in all these
influences and then they sort of get
mixed together in your mind and by your
subconscious and influenced by your life
experiences. And what comes out of you,
unless you are trying to copy, unless
you're not very original, what comes out
of you is something original and
something unique. The problem with
generative AI is, and you see this when
you sort of use it. And definitely while
I was even making the thumbnail for this
video, spoiler alert, I did it first cuz
I jumped on the trend of doing a studio
Gibli inspired art and went, "Oh my god,
I have to try this out and I have to
talk about this on camera because I have
such strong feelings about this." Um,
and I think that um, the danger with
this stuff is that when you go through
chat GPT, when you go through midjourney
on all these different platforms,
although it feels like you are getting
something completely unique and
completely original in the moment, um,
it tends to be when you do deeper
research into this and when you look up
the results that these platforms give
you, quite iterative and quite um, and
very heavily influenced by other
people's work. so influenced that you
might say it's copying. And I think this
is what a lot of artists who've gone
online and writers who've gone online
have found in um scouring the internet
for things that are influenced by their
works. Um there were some stories
recently of writers who've gone online
um doing research for books by chat and
going into chat GPT and asked it for
information on things only to find out
chat GPT gives them their writing
essentially um with either very little
changes or no changes at all um but
presented as new material. So it can be
a very dangerous thing and I think this
is starting to happening in the art
world a little bit. So, if we look at
the studio Gibli situation at the
moment, obviously it's a massive trend.
Everybody's jumping on board. I've just
done it. Um, Miyazaki's come out and
said he's absolutely disgusted by it and
he would never use these tools. And I do
completely understand why he's had that
reaction. Um because there are millions
upon millions upon millions of people
sort of diluting the unique style that
Gibli as a studio and Miyazaki as an
artist have spent artists have spent
years refining and years creating.
And without that refinement, without
without those years of refinement,
without the individual life experiences
that the individual artists have had um
that they put into the creative process,
creating these stories and creating the
art and then the art informing those
stories. Oh, sorry. The and even the
stories informing that art to get that
unique style. It's what chat GPT is
missing. Jack G G G G G G G G G G G G G
G G G G G G G GPT is sort of skimming
the the the the the the surface and
extrapolating the key visual points that
are the culmination of these years and
years of refining the process and the
collective human experience of these
artists who've come together to form
studio Gibli and it's giving you a
faximile approximation of that and I
think that comes down to the crux of why
AI art is so essentially dangerous is it
completely theft then to come back to
the question in the thumbnail and the
question in the title. Well, it's a
difficult one. Like from a technical
standpoint, you are not getting an exact
faximile and copy of an exact piece of
work, but it's you are getting an exact
faximile and copy without any of the
depth behind people's bodies of work.
And I think that is even more dangerous
in a way. Um it's very difficult to
quantify and it's very difficult ethical
situation. I think this is going to take
a sort of a confluence of lawmakers and
philosophers and different people to
come together to figure out how best to
deal with this. But is it theft?
Ultimately, in my opinion, I do kind of
think so a little bit. It is kind of
riding off the backs of other people's
work, riding on the shoulders of giants,
if you will, but without putting in any
of the
um without earning the right to do so,
if that makes sense. I think the real
danger with this technology is that
there are ultimately real creative
people who are real artists using it to
create incredibly interesting work. And
I have seen people create stuff online
which is iterative but they iterate on
their own work and then use chat GPT and
platforms like that to help refine that
even further. But I think the danger is
everybody else, the unwashed masses if
you will, and I hate to call them that,
but it's so true, um, who are going to
jump onto all sorts of platforms and
flood them with really lowquality
flaximiles of this work that other
people, artists, um, studios like Gibli
have spent years and years and years
refining. Um, and not just in the art
space and the video space and the film
space, but in the music space as well.
There's AI now which will create you
songs in the style of um different
artists as well. And I think it's so
incredibly dangerous because the casual
listener can't discern the difference
between it. And some people may say,
well then if you can't discern the
difference, why is it any less
artistically valid? But the problem is
it is less artistically valued because
it's not informed by any real human
experience. It's a computer's
approximation of that. And because of
that, I don't think it's art because it
doesn't move anything forward in any
real way. It remixes previous experience
from other people. And because it misses
that human element until AI becomes
sentient, which is a very dangerous
thing, a very scary thing until it is
able to have that extra 5% where it's
got that sort of human soul and it
starts to get into sort of quite a
spiritual philosophical realm here as
well. And I don't know what that is. I'm
not a religious person per se. I'm not a
subscriber to any one particular
religion. But I do at the same time
acknowledge that there is something sort
of spiritual, something soulful that
humans sort of have that is above and
beyond what AI and what computers can do
at the moment.
And I don't know whether it's
technically possible for a computer or
machine to develop a soul, develop that.
And it's such an interesting
philosophical and spiritual conundrum.
And there's going to be all sorts of
haters who leap on and leap into the
comments and go, "Of course not.
Technology can't do that. It will always
be approximation." And maybe it will be.
I think it definitely is at the moment.
But what if we do accidentally create
life? Gosh, this is a bigger, deeper
question. Is AI out stealing?
Absolutely. At the moment, it definitely
is. Will it be always in the future? I
don't know. I'm interested to see what
happens. Is there any basis to what
Miyazaki is saying about it being
soulless um and a theft of their work
and their hard-earned uh reputation?
Yeah, I think so. Um all you people who
are going out there jumping on the
bandwagon, cheapening every social media
platform, posting that stuff, it's cool.
It's fun. I jumped on the bandwagon. I
did it. But like, and we all are. But I
hope this wave kind of clashes a little
bit. I do enjoy the AI tools to some
degree, but at the same time, I don't
want this to be the only way that stuff
gets created. My LinkedIn feed at the
moment, if you jumped on LinkedIn, which
is the most laughable social media
platform out there, um, is full of
people saying advertising agencies are
dead and they're creating print
campaigns that haven't been relevant
for, you know, multiple decades right
now and doing posters with terrible AI
generated gibberish saying stuff is
campaign ready. Um, it's absolutely
ridiculous and I don't think real human
creativity is in any danger of losing
its steam. But I think over the next few
years, we're going to go through this
interesting and very difficult and
challenging time for a lot of creatives
and professionals in the creative space
where people are trying out these tools
and seeing if they can't get the same
results from them. And happily, I still
don't think that's possible.
But could it be in the future? This
again raises an incredible question
about AGI um artificial general
intelligence and whether again sentience
does come to the machines and it could
do could be the rise of the machines um
Terminator in the future is scary. The
Terminator won't be the T-1000 hunting
down John Connor. It will be a soulless
machine in a server farm somewhere
stealing people's jobs. Maybe I think
it's already happening to a
degree. Scary scary times. Fun times as
well cuz I think for a lot of people who
are doing great work, you're going to
float to the top. You're going to be the
the the bastions of human creativity.
The people who fly the flag for what is
right and what is truthful and what
reflects the human experience both
across the world of art and perhaps even
I think across the world of advertising
and marketing and communications as
well. Um so fly that flag. Let's take it
back. Let's plant our feet firmly on the
ground. Let's not get lazy. Let's not
get complacent. Let's not let AI take
over. Anyway, this is a rant I thought
was important to put out there. I
actually did a video earlier on where I
talked about my feelings on using chat
GPT as a writing kind of co-pilot for
scripts and things like that. And I
loved it. Check out that video like up
here. It's an awesome and fascinating
journey and I'm probably going to be
doing updates of that very soon because
the tools have come so far in so many
few short months. But anyway, until
then, check that video out. Check my
beginners video playlist up here as
well. And see you in the next one. Bye.
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